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Fatwa versus Islamic Reform – 19.org 19.org Faith not supported by reason and empirical vestige is wishful thinking Menu Skip to content Home Books BrainbowTypesettingList Quran: a Reformist Translation NINETEEN: God’s Signature Islamic Theory ofIncubation(Shanavas) Authors Edip Yüksel Abdur Rab Arnold Mol Asghar Ali Engineer Kassim Ahmad Reaz Islam Videos Organization Contact Associates and Affiliates Download 114 Movement Registration Update Info Fatwa versus Islamic Reform Posted by admin on 4 February 2016, 5:23 pmPursuita Fatwa-Review of “a Very Established Scholar,” Palgrave/Macmillan Aborted the Publication of the Reformist Translation of the Quran Edip Yuksel www.19.org  (TheWell-constructedReview of the Sunni Scholar and Our Response) “…. From the perspective of the wonk study of the Qur’an, this typesetting has very little to contribute……. .” – A unrecognized Sunni Scholar who was described by the editor of Palgrave-Macmillan as “a very well-established professor.” In 2004, my colleagues and I signed a contract with Palgrave/Macmillan publishing house for the Quran: a Reformist Translation. The editor and other staff of the publishing house were very encouraging and enthusiastic, and last summer, I was personally introduced to the director of the publishing visitor at its New York headquarters. Palgrave plane published an utterance well-nigh the upcoming Reformist Translation in their 2006 Fall/Winter Catalogue, which was later postponed for the summer of 2007. However, in December 2006, the editor informed me that the workbench unswayable that my manuscript was not winning for publication. iNear Eastern Studies and Islamic Studies departments are heavily dependent on the grants of Sunni or Shiite establishments and the financial support of repressive regimes. Furthermore, Middle Eastern or Near Eastern Studies programs employ a good number of embedded CIA teachers disguised as scholars, whose real job is to promote the voucher of imperial politics. So, for both theological and political reasons, the likelihood of a typesetting by outspoken progressive muslims receiving negative reviews from those “well established scholars” was high. Perhaps, the publishing house looked for a “scholarly” excuse to superego the work of a politically incorrect team. Early signs of such a desire were evident when the publishing house recommended I delete the last section of the Manifesto for Islamic Reform, where I write Muslims, Christendom, Jews, and all Humanity. The “very well-established” scholar’s letter (partially quoted above), was filled with prejudice, false accusations and misrepresentations. There was however, one substantial criticism, which consisted of our usage of a word, yes a single word in the translation: progressive. Palgrave’s “very well-established scholar” theoretically had allergy towards that word; his rejection of that word did not rest on a linguistic argument, but on his lack of differentiation between “progressive” and “Progressive,” the first stuff an adjective and the latter, a relatively modern political label. Based on his reactionary and regressive mindset, our scholar pontificated that the tragedian of the Quran could not have any idea well-nigh a progressive concept! (See verse 15:24; 74:37; and 66:5) I believe that without hearing my defense versus this Sunni version of excommunication in the guise of a “scholarly review,” the publishing house single-minded an injustice versus my person and our work. I tabbed the publishing house and asked them to requite me the endangerment to respond to the reviewer and defend myself and work versus his disparagement and distortions; I was told he remain anonymous. These so-called scholars who glorify tradition do not have the guts to engage in hair-trigger thinking. They are enlightened of a lot of literature and are very good in quoting this or that in their works, yet they lack originality and the valiance to criticize the establishment. They are withdrawn towards the plight of the masses. They do not take the risk of urgently participating in leading the masses in a largest direction. All they superintendency well-nigh is their pension, their reputation among those who would rank them in the wonk game and politics. Most of their production is regurgitation of useless wonk material that contributes nothing toward the irradiation of individuals and the society. They consider themselves objective, yet they cannot tolerate honest people with conviction.[1] We were not surprised to hear negative remarks, insults, or false associations from a reviewer who considers a rejection of wrong-side-up and unclothe sectarian dogmas “heresy.” However, we were surprised to learn that the workbench of the publishing house cancelled the publication of a potentially controversial yet crucial typesetting that would introduce the message of the Quran–the message of peace, justice, reason, and progress–without the distortion of sectarian teachings. Any scholar who can see vastitude his or her office can see the growing reform movement, unshut or clandestine, particularly in Turkey, Malaysia, Iran, Egypt and Kazakhstan where people take unconfined risks to question the popular sectarian dogmas. Men and women of reason who have been promoting Islamic reform since the 1970’s by rejecting manmade religious dogmas have been the target of Sunni and Shiite extremists, terrorist groups and oppressive governments. Many of those who converted to rational monotheism are oppressed, some are forced to emigrate, others are forced to hibernate their whereabouts, and a few have been assassinated. For instance, my friend, Dr. Rashad Khalifa, was assassinated in Tucson, Arizona, by an al-Qaida unite terrorist group al-Fuqra or al-Fuqara; my Turkish comrade, Ms. Gonca Kuriş, was kidnapped, tortured and assassinated by Turkish Hizbullah, tangibly a tool of a faction in the Turkish secret police agency. And with the publication of this book, we are concerned well-nigh Layth who lives in Saudi Arabia, an oppressive and regressive monarchy supported by the US-Inc, which has been incubating a frustrated and unenlarged population. It is our conviction that some powerful interest groups do not wish the voice of a progressive islamic reform movement to be heard, a movement that does not justify state terrorism and atrocities as a response to group violence and terrorism; a movement that rejects serving the recently increased want of the imperialistic hegemony and military vita of U.S. Inc., which has been advocated and conducted in the Middle East and vastitude by the coalition of Neocon, right-wing Evangelical Christians, the Oil/Weapon industry, AIPAC, and the turning of Anglo-fascists, under the guise of national interest, self-rule or security. Modern world history is filled with numerous examples showing that the terrorism, atrocities, genocides, covert operations, destruction and misery caused by militaries and police forces of governments are by far much worse than the ones single-minded by terrorist gangs and organizations. We cannot indulge the national propaganda machines lead us to seek refuge in a super evil that promises to save us from a smaller one, expressly if the latter is the by product of the first. We should not let our governments be hijacked by war profiteers who do not hesitate to satisfy their greed for increasingly power and money at the forfeit of the thoroughbred of the young and innocent, white and black, here and abroad. We should not let their embedded teachers in academia and printing woods us through double speak, misinformation, and disinformation. We should not let some dubious forces manufacture consent in our names. We should not let ourselves be manipulated by fear-mongers, who will only increase or exaggerate the source of our fears. We should take when our governments by getting informed and involved. We should not let the fanatic Jihadies and Crusaders lead the world to their underdone Armageddon. You may visit the pursuit websites for the full letter of the Sunni scholar whose translating was taken at squatter value by Palgrave/Macmillan, and our response to the letter. You may moreover find in the pursuit websites, recent updates, reactions, and feedback from reviewers, our responses, related news in the media, and the activities of the global reformist movement: www.19.org www.progressivemuslims.org www.free-minds.org www.quranic.org Let the world hear the message. Let the West hear the voice of monotheism, the voice of reason, peace, justice and progress. Let the East and the Middle East hear the well-spoken message of the typesetting that they have x-rated for centuries, despite efforts by their leaders to repress it. 9:32     They want to extinguish God‘s light with their mouths, but God refuses such and lets His light continue, plane if the ingrates hate it. 9:33     He is the One who sent His messenger with guidance and the system of truth, to make it manifest whilom all other systems, plane if those who set up partners hate it. Now, I will intersperse my response with the full letter of the Sunni scholar who led Palgrave/Macmillan to waif the publication of this book: “Thanks very much for sending me the manuscript of Quran: a Reformist Translation. As you requested, I will struggle to write the quality of the debate, the market/audience and potential for undertow material, and the timeliness for this publication. “From the perspective of the wonk study of the Qur’an, this typesetting has very little to contribute. The translators represent an eccentric modern movement that claims its inspiration from Rashad Khalifa, a scientist who in 1974 came up with a computer-based numerological wringer of the Qur’an that served as a understructure for his wholesale rejection of the last 14 centuries of Islamic tradition, and his founding of a new sect tabbed United Submitters International. The translators repeatedly refer to this event as a miraculous discovery, something which will have very little request either to mainstream Muslims or to non-Muslims looking for a solid tideway to this sacred text. The problem with this numerology is its well-constructed disconnection from meaning and history, and its requirement that permutations of the number 19 demonstrate the miraculousness of the Qur’an. This sorry tideway (which is well known in 20th-century thought, though by no ways unchallenged) is based on intellectual sleight-of-hand, using the language of science to confer religious validity on a sacred text.” This so-called prominent scholar does not scarecrow to provide vestige for his accusation. His windbag and hostile reaction to the numerical structure of the Quran is a typical reaction of an innumerate Sunni or Shiite mullah. Ironically, many Sunni scholars virtually the world applauded and prestigious Dr. Rashad Khalifa and his work for well-nigh a decade, until they learned that he was not one of them. Rejecting our claims, which are published in numerous books, in a “scholarly” review and depicting it as “intellectual sleight-of-hand” without providing a shred of vestige is itself intellectual sleight-of-hand. As for our inspiration stuff Rashad Khalifa, that is a misstatement. Though it was Rashad who pulled our sustentation the message of the Quran and monotheism, the source of our inspiration was and unchangingly has been reason and the message of Quran through the light of reason. When he was working among us, we tabbed him with his first name and discussed issues with him freely. We never considered him as an “authority” regarding islam. To the contrary, we found ourselves mostly like-minded with him, since he was using reason in his hair-trigger evaluation of sects and religions. We reject stuff labeled as members of a sect, since we have problem with organized religions and we submit ourselves to God alone. This very translation differs in numerous verses from the translation of Rashad Khalifa. As for the “wholesale rejection of the last 14 centuries of Islamic tradition”… This is a misstatement of our position, since the so-called modern Islamic tradition did not originate 14 centuries ago, but it originated without the compilation of made-up hadith three centuries without the death of Prophet Muhammad. Besides, we never rejected the use of sectarian tradition and liturgy as historical documents, sure stuff subject of hair-trigger evaluation. We moreover never rejected their role in learning the political, social, cultural and linguistic norms and events of the past. So, the well-judged towage of our position would be the following: “Wholesale rejection of 11 centuries of sectarian tradition which is based on hearsay and medieval Arab culture as a secondary validity besides God’s word.” Those who are familiar with our work will attest to the fact that our Sunni scholar is twisting our well-known position with his sleight-of-words. “To proclaim that the Qur’an contains 20th-century scientific discoveries renders meaningless the religious faith of Muslims of the past who could not possibly have been enlightened of such a concept. It moreover makes the faith of future Muslims irrelevant, since these 20th-century scientific discoveries will be utterly transformed in flipside hundred years. Moreover, it demonstrates a staggering guts in suggesting that only now for the first time in 1400 years has someone unquestionably grasped the significance of the Qur’an. In a way, this is the mirror image of those hypercritical exposés (e.g., Christian Luxenberg) ultimatum to discover for the first time in history that the Qur’an is unquestionably written in Syriac or is somehow a forgery. This adds nothing to the understanding of the origins and meaning of the Qur’an in its original context, or to the way in which it has been interpreted over the centuries.” Indeed, this is a powerful argument. Not considering it contains truth; but considering it cunningly appeals to a diverse group of people and feeds their prejudices. It appeals to Orientalists and Atheists who consider the Quran the work of an uneducated desert Arab lived in medieval ages.Equalto this group, the Quran cannot contain any information that could not have been known by Muhammad’s contemporaries. So, this group will be ready to reject our arguments without plane listening to them, as this so-called prominent scholar has done. This argument, ironically, appeals to traditional Sunnis too, since they consider the Quran incapable of containing any information vastitude Muhammad’s knowledge. Idolizing Muhammad and limiting the knowledge and information contained in the Quran with Muhammad’s understanding, contradicts many verses of the Quran, which we listed in the footnotes of the translation. Without dealing with any of those verses, this so-called prominent scholar ignores the numerous scientific statements mentioned in the Quran, and reduces the divine knowledge to the limited knowledge and understanding topics of medieval men. They ignore the fact that, if the Quran is God’s typesetting as it asserts, if the Quran contains information vastitude the time of its revelation as it asserts, then Muhammad, a human messenger, could not have properly understood many scientific statements contained in the Quran. Furthermore, our prominent scholar ignores the fact that we do not have an well-judged and exhaustive worth of Muhammad’s understanding of the Quran. All we have well-nigh Muhammad are volumes of contradictory hearsay narrations placid increasingly than two centuries without his departure. The weightier of those books contains stories of holy goat eating and unaffirmative verses of the Quran, monkeys stoning illicit monkeys to death, Muhammad stuff wizardly by a magician, or Muhammad marrying a child scrutinizingly 50 years younger than himself! The scholar revered by the workbench of Palgrave/Macmillan wants us to subordinate the knowledge of the Quran to these kinds of tradition. He wishes us to pollute our mind with the understanding of those who glorify those kinds of silly stories. Let’s read again, his last statement in the excerpt above: “This adds nothing … to the way in which it has been interpreted over the centuries.” What? “Over the centuries?” Why not “by Muhammad and his companions?” If our only way of understanding the Quran is trying to understand the interpretation washed-up centuries ago, then what well-nigh the second-century muslims? If the second century muslims had no right to understand the Quran on their own, then there could be only one generation that had the right to understand the Quran: The first generation. The rest, equal to Palgrave/Macmillan’s scholar, had to regurgitate their interpretations. However, if those who lived in the second century, or the third century, or the 13th century had the right to interpret the Quran equal to their own times, then why should we, the 21st century generation, not have the same right? The “prominent” scholar, as it seems, is too prominent to notice this simple logical fallacy in his argument. “The only way in which this might be seen as useful is in the extent to which it documents new intellectual movements that have emerged in Muslim circles during the 20th and 21st centuries. In this sense, this typesetting could be considered a contribution, although frankly it would need to be treated in comparison and analytically from an outside perspective in order to be considered academic. Simply to publish this work as it is basically gives this religious group a platform to express their distinctive theology, which is highly polemical and dismissive of other perspectives. They state quite unmistakably that “we intend for the translation to reflect the original message of the Quran for those who have scholarly or personal marvel in it” (page 9), but they identify this original message with their “alternate perspective,” which is explicitly a rejection of all previous views.” In this translation, we did not just replace the “previous views” with our “alternative perspective.” For scrutinizingly all cases where we differed from the traditional translations, we provided sufficient discussions in the footnotes, using linguistics, sound reasoning, and the light of other verses of the Quran. We understand the reaction of scholars of theology who secure a position at a university by merely wearing and pasting previous views without hair-trigger thinking; the reformist paradigm appears foreign and scary. “The possible market request of this typesetting is questionable. There is considerable controversy tying to be translators’ inspiration, Rashad Khalifa, who was theoretically assassinated by Muslim extremists. Controversy may squire typesetting sales, as happened in the specimen of The Satanic Verses, but it would be a cynical and questionable strategy to publish a typesetting simply considering it arouses the wrath of many people. Nor would scholars of Islamic studies be drawn to use this typesetting in courses, unless they were dealing with fringe movements in the modern world. I myself would never use it in my undertow on “the Qur’an as literature,” though I might yank it to the sustentation of a student interested in modern science-based ideological approaches to the text.” Those Muslim extremists followed the “tradition”, which we are accused of not respecting. The books of jurisprudence of both Sunni and Shiite sects and their interpretations of the Quran misconstrue the verses of the Quran and momentum a satanic rule: “Anyone who is deemed heretic or scoundrelly by ulama should be killed.” Dropping the name of The Satanic Verses of Salman Rushdi, our Sunni scholar is intending to scare the publishing house, which we believe was the real reason for the receipt of the publication of this translation. The publishing house received numerous positive feedback and endorsements from prominent scholars. How a sober mind, expressly someone who is considered a scholar, could misplace this translation with a fiction that contains ugly insults and false accusations to Prophet Muhammad and his family? Where in this translation did this Sunni scholar find such disrespect, plane a hint of such a language? To the contrary, this translation is one of the strongest defenses of Muhammad’s integrity and model weft versus the defamation of hearsay tradition. Nevertheless, the Sunni scholar reached his goal, which was to scare a prestigious American publishing visitor off from publishing a typesetting that could be impetus in peace and progress. “I have not yet addressed the requirement of the translators to represent a reformist and nonsexist view of Islam. I think that such a goal is worthwhile and indeed is stuff pursued responsibly by a number of scholars and activists. However, there is a big gap that separates the eccentricity and polemical exclusivism of this text from, for example, the serious wonk and philosophical engagement with upstanding issues foible of the group represented in the volume Progressive Muslims: on Gender, Justice, and Pluralism, edited by Omid Safi. The translators make their specimen for a nonsexist reading of the Qur’an by highly selective and wrong-headed readings of terms, such as the wacky rendering of the Arabic word bakr (normally “virgin”) as “progressive,” a meaning that is practically inconceivable in seventh-century Arabia. They wield their own understanding of the principles of the Qur’an to revise the text with remarkable condone of historical and linguistic precedent. It would be a mistake to equate this kind of revisionism with a genuine spirit of reform, since it would create a false impression for those who might be interested in real Islamic reform. “ Good. Finally, to support his accusations, our scholar is providing a specific example, though it is a single word. He picks that particular word without 13 full pages. Assuming that he read at least 13 pages from this translation surpassing writing this diatribe, could we say that he did not have a problem with our arguments for rejecting the traditional translation of verse 4:34, where we rejected the traditional distortion justifying husband vibration their wives, or our rejecting the traditional take on 5:38, where punishment for thieves is limited with wearing off their hands, or our rejection of traditional translation of 9:29, where distortion of a word create an uneaten tax on non-Muslims, or our rejection of traditional translation of 4:127, where the fatherless children of widows are considered candidates to be married by their sultana guardians? Our “prominent scholar” could not find anything wrong with those radical and important diversions from tradition. To support all his unsubstantiated attacks on behalf of a regressive and diabolic innovation that replaced a Quranic tradition, he finally finds a single word in our translation: progressive. Interestingly, he does not unclose the no-go importance of our powerful arguments debunking the traditional interpretation on 4:34; 5:38; 9:29; and 4:127 (among hundreds of others). Restoring the meaning of these four verses vacated to their indented original meaning, yes this alone, would have immense contribution to the intellectual, social, and political lives of increasingly than a billion Muslims. But, our scholar does not superintendency well-nigh truth, well stuff of Muslims or their progress. All he cares is to follow a status quo that landed him on a secure job. As for the word progress: Withoutsending the typhoon of the translation to Palgrave/Macmillan, together with few others, we revised the translation of verse 66:5 and we replaced the word “progressive” with “foremost ones,” which we had once listed as one of the other alternatives in the discussion section of the draft. We have a strong treatise why the word “abkar” should not be translated as “virgins.” The Sunni scholar does not respond to any of our arguments. His problem with the word “progressive” is pervasive and emanates from his regressive position.Equalto Palgrave/Macmillan’s scholar the meaning of progressive, is “practically inconceivable in seventh-century Arabia.” He would be perhaps right if it was written in wanted reports as Progressive. But, ultimatum that a population that demonstrated the topics of igniting a splendid civilization in a unbridled speed, yes claming that such a population had no concept of progress is a sign of intoxication with the cocktail of swellheadedness and ignorance. Had he checked verse 74:37, he would be shocked to see the word “progressive” or its synonyms. “The endorsements that have once been cited for this work include some from people (Irshad Manji and Daniel Pipes) who are known primarily for their tug-of-war and enmity towards Islam, a project which has significant valuables in unrepealable political quarters. Their notion of “reform” is a well-constructed capitulation of Muslims to the dictates of the globalizing capitalist economy, and as an endorsement it will speak worlds well-nigh the questionable credentials of this work. The other endorsements are cautious to say the least. Thus one can only undeniability this a timely writing from an opportunistic point of view.” This knee-jerk reaction to a couple of names who supported our work demonstrates the level of sensation of the scholar well-nigh our position: zero. His tug-of-war and fanaticism versus our theological position perhaps deprived him to learn our political position. Had he read any of our wares on trendy political issues, misogynist in books and several websites, he would learn immediately that our political position is in line with the position of Noam Chomsky and all other activists promoting global peace and justice. Had he moreover checked the names of others who endorsed our work, he would be confused, since most of them have nothing to do with his scenario. For instance, Kassim Ahmad of Malaysia is inverse of Daniel Pipes of USA. Kassim is a strong voice versus American imperialism and Zionism. Similarly, Reza Aslan and all the rest of those who endorsed the typesetting may not necessarily share the same political or theological positions. The idea of Islamic Reform may request to many variegated people for many variegated reasons. The stereotypical lenses of the “prominent” scholar is unable to see the nature of the endorsements we received, and thus, he takes out his two boxes and puts the two names in our list, together with my name, in the one labeled “bad”, and put the rest in the “cautious” one. “More could be said well-nigh the translation itself, which is unappetizing and uninspired in its style, quirky in the interpretation, treats verses atomistically without connecting them, and in its quotation of the Arabic is marred by an idiosyncratic transliteration system based on modern Turkish. But I think it should be evident that I do not recommend this for publication, and I think it would be a mistake for Palgrave to take this on.” This might be considered a pearly criticism. Though his blinding bias takes yonder his points regarding the style and literary value of this translation, we never personal superiority of the Reformist Translation in literary style. This has never been the primary goal of this work. In fact, there are numerous spelling errors, and it might create too many distractions for the Spelling Bee contestants. Since the typesetting was elapsed vastitude our patience, we decided to go with the publication despite some spelling errors. I do not recommend this typesetting to those who are going to treat it like a wordlist or flipside Shakespeare; they can find largest books. 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