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Islamofacism-2 – 19.org 19.org Faith not supported by reason and empirical vestige is wishful thinking Menu Skip to content Home Books Brainbow Book List Quran: a Reformist Translation NINETEEN: God’s Signature Islamic Theory ofIncubation(Shanavas) Authors Edip Yüksel Abdur Rab Arnold Mol Asghar Ali Engineer Kassim Ahmad Reaz Islam Videos Organization Contact Associates and Affiliates Download 114 Movement Registration Update Info Islamofacism-2 Posted by admin on 24 August 2016, 10:58 pm 2 thoughts on “Defending Islam: Corpus juris must be seen as a whole; the cancer of Islamofacism” Lambda Gongyi-Lu 18 July 22016 www.19.org I would like to add an uneaten note. Islamophobes are obsessed with a kind of logical fallacy that goes as follows: Elephants are animals, therefore, a small elephant is a small animal. But this is obviously false. In this statement, the definition of the first “small” is variegated from that of the second. The first “small” ways small relative to an stereotype elephant, while the second “small” ways small relative to all animals on average; a small elephant is still pretty big compared to all other animals on average. In the arguments of Islamophobes, similarly, the definition of the term “Islam” shifts virtually to fulfill their agenda. So I’ll first requite several possible definitions of the term “Islam” as used in everyday speech: 1. A family of religious orders that ideologically gives special significance to the Quran and Prophet Muhammad. I put the word “ideologically” considering in fact, many people who undeniability themselves “Muslims” and consider themselves part of those religious orders don’t read the Quran, though they will be offended if the Quran is under attack. This is the most worldwide way the term “Islam” is used in everyday speech. I undeniability this the “cultural definition”. 2. The way extremist Wahabis interpret Islam. Note that the vast majority of Muslims by definition 1 reject such interpretation. 3. The system of pure monotheism and submission to God as described in the Quran. This is how we Quranists pinpoint the term “Islam”, and I undeniability this the “theological definition”. Under this definition, most of what counts as Islam by definitions 1 and 2 are not Islam, considering of polytheism, such as idolizing religious leaders and saints and seeking intercession from Muhammad. From now on, Islam(x) or Muslim(x) denote Islam or Muslim under definition x, where x is an integer from 1 to 3. There can be increasingly possible definitions, but I’ll focus on these 3. Here comes the fallacy of Islamophobes. Their arguments often follow this form: Islam(2) is intrinsically violent and backward; therefore, saying that Islam(1) should be eliminated is not favoritism or hate speech. When arguing that Islam is intrinsically violent and backward, they refer to Islam(2). However, when arguing for favoritism versus Muslims and for eliminating Islam from earth, they refer to Islam(1). In fact, Islam(1) and Islam(2) are pretty much incompatible to each other. According to Islam(2), all members of Islam(1) that is not moreover a member of Islam(2) is not Islam at all. So if Islam(2) is intrinsically violent and should thus be eliminated, this should by definition not include anything in Islam(1) that is not a member of Islam(2). In other words, if something is Islam if and only if it’s Islam(2), then Islam(1) shouldn’t be relevant here considering it’s not Islam to uncork with. Moreover, 99% of what counts as Islam(1) is not Islam(2). I stipulate that Islam(2) really deserves to be eliminated, but saying that this ways Islam(1) should be eliminated is doing injustice to over a billion people. Here, the switch of definition reflects the bias and inequity versus Islam(1) as well as xenophobia by Islamophobes. Islamophobes moreover like to predicate that Islam(2) is the pure form of Islam, so Islam(1) is supposed to wilt Islam(2) to be pure. But most Muslim(1)s will reject this; they would say there’s no logical way in their corpus juris to justify Islam(2), which ways 99% of Muslim(1) don’t have any potential to wilt Muslim(2). Furthermore, why is it the Islamophobe’s merchantry to write the corpus juris for Muslim(1)s? Isn’t this ridiculous? To ask a similar question: Why is it the atheist’s merchantry to tell a theist what to believe? Atheist: Science has unchangingly been in war with religion. Science has successfully explained what people used to symbol to God, so science has eliminated the need of God. Theist: This is not true. Throughout history, faith in God has inspired unconfined scientists like Galileo, Kepler, Boyle, Maxwell, Francis Collins, and etc. to do science. To them, science is a way of worship, since knowing increasingly well-nigh how God created the universe is just like knowing the mind of God. The God of the gaps mindset is bad theology that most theologians reject, and is incongruent with Scripture, considering everything is the work of God. The completeness and intelligibility of Nature remoter shows the glory of God, in His immanent involvement in the universe, to paraphrase the eminent theologian David Bentley Hart. Atheist: No, God has been eliminated by science. God can’t be otherwise, and you describe God your way considering you’re ignorant and scientists in the past are ignorant. If you correctly understand what God is, then you’ll know that God has been eliminated by science. But the reality is, for us theists, the atheist here is ignorant (I’m not generalizing to all atheists here). Many Islamophobes are Christians, and in this example, Muslims and Christians can find a worldwide ground to ease understanding. I know that stronger arguments for unfaith exist, but I deliberately picked a terrible one to illustrate how weakness of treatise generates the need to mold the opponent into a straw man. Our scripture is well-spoken that everything in the universe submits to God and that God is the Sustainer, not God of the gaps. But the atheist here has to feed us God of the gaps for his treatise to be successful; otherwise his treatise will fall apart. The atheist might not know that his understanding of God is rejected by the vast majority of serious believers, and he might think that his understanding is correct, but here, we see how we can’t winnow his understanding of God. In the same manner, vast majority of Muslim(1)s will not winnow the Islam(2) that Islamophobes are gravity feeding. So this remoter shows that most of Muslim(1)s have no potential to wilt Muslim(2)s plane if they seek doctrinal purity. And there’s a need to gravity feed considering the Islamophobe’s treatise will fall untied without Islam(2). Another point to make well-nigh the Islamophobe’s requirement whilom is that there’s no such thing as THE Islam(1). There’s many variegated kinds of Islam: Sufi, Sunni, Shia, Ahmadi, Quranist, etc., and they differ vastly from each other. For instance, while Shias venerate saints, we Quranists reject it as idolatry. While Sunnis venerate their religious scholars and requirement that we need the scholars to understand Islam and be guided, we Quranists reject this as idolatry as well.Consideringthe vast majority of the Sunni corpus juris is outside the Quran, rejecting all those and keeping the Quran vacated makes us Quranists much increasingly variegated from Sunnis than Protestants are variegated from Catholics. It’s not the merchantry of any one school to pinpoint the doctrine of other schools (for similar reasons as the previous paragraph); each school defines its own doctrine. There’s no such thing as THE Islam(1). When Muslims are talking well-nigh something like THE Islam, they’re unquestionably referring to the definition of their school, like Quranists are referring to Islam(3), but not Islam(1), as THE Islam. In the West, where most Muslim(1)s are non-denominational, every single person defines what Islam is for himself, and they mostly respect differing opinions of other Muslims(1). To some Muslim(1)s, Islam(1) is just a cultural identity and they’re not into the Quran. While other Muslim(1)s are into the Quran, but anyone familiar with Quranist culture must know the palpable diversity in our interpretation of many verses and concepts. To some Muslim(1)s, other schools of Islam(1) is unacceptable and will not deserve salvation, while to some others (I believe it’s the majority of Muslim(1)s in the West), other schools are moreover valid, as long as they’re peaceful and sincere. We should alimony these differences of mindset and corpus juris (just like the “biochemistry” of concepts) in mind just like we alimony the vast differences between the biochemistry of archea and that of yes-man in mind though both archea and yes-man are prokaryotes. These differences midpoint that while some yes-man are infectious, archea are not, so it’s fallacious to generalize infectiousness of some yes-man to all prokaryotes. Here I’m responding to increasingly potential objections. Objection: Islam is once cancerous. I think a similar form of this objection is that Islam is a user-friendly marker for terrorism. Again, please pinpoint your term: What do you midpoint by “Islam”? I would stipulate that Islam(2) (from the previous comment) is cancerous, but this can’t be generalized to all members of Islam(1).Unquestionablyit’s not my merchantry to defend all possible creeds of Islam(1), since many of them are polytheistic and thus not Islam(3), which I hold. I’m defending Islam(1) considering Islamophobia is not doing justice to Islam(1) and I uphold justice. What a Muslim(1) is like is not reducible to what unites Islam(1) and what a human lamina is like is not reducible to the human genome (which unites human cells), considering so many things executive what Muslim(1) or a human lamina is like are outside what unites Islam(1) or human cells. What makes Islam(2) Islam(2) is outside what unites Islam(1), and that’s why the vast majority of Islam(1) is not Islam(2) and will not wilt Islam(2). There’s no such thing as THE Islam(1) just as there’s no such thing as THE human cell, as the property that unites both the category Islam(1) and the category human lamina is not predictive of other important properties (properties besides those that unite members of the group and what’s worldwide not only to members of this group but moreover the larger group that includes this group) of members of the categories that all members must possess. I undeniability this kind of property a mandatory property. For instance, while lamina type is not reducible to the human genome, every single human lamina must have a lamina type. Similarly, while what unites Islam(1) does not entail what Islam ways for every single person, all Muslim must have such a definition. For some, Islam ways a cultural identity, and for some, it’s a system that governs every speciality of life. So what is THE human cell? Is it a pluripotent stem cell? Is it a cancer cell? Is it a neuron? A fibroblast? An epithelial cell? A chondrocyte? A goblet cell? A cardiomyocyte? A lymphocyte? Or a combination of some of them? To be honest, there is plane no such thing as THE white thoroughbred lamina or THE neuron, for the same reason why there’s no THE human cell. What is THE Islam while there’re mandatory properties within Islam(1) that are mutually exclusive? Definition of the corpus juris is moreover a mandatory property for Muslim(1), but many such definitions are mutually exclusive, such as while Hadith is inside to Sunnis, Quranists reject all Hadiths. A lamina can’t be both a white thoroughbred lamina and a neuron. It doesn’t matter who’s right; everybody is happy with his own definition and won’t be hands persuaded to change. I’m sure that from the perspective of Islam(3), seeing Islam as merely a cultural identity is wrong, but since there’s no way that Western Muslims who think that way to derive terrorism from their corpus juris, then whatever Islam(2) does has nothing to do with them. Another thing here is that Islam(1) does not plane have a definition of who’s right or wrong; I said so and so is wrong based on Islam(3), since I can’t find a yardstick from the definition of Islam(1). Disagree with my definition of Islam(1)? Just pull out some vendible from the media or pay sustentation to everyday speech and try to infer the definition from context. You should get something in the same line. (For example, see how the terms “Islam” and “Muslim” are used inhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/) Don’t overly think that there’s no such thing as Islam(1) and that Islam is nothing but Islam(2) and that the media usage of Islam(1) is political correctness. If you think that way, then just walk out of your community, visit a Sufi part-way (or just a random person in a university Muslim student association, etc.) and try to gravity feed the members Islam(2); you will soon reach an impasse due to the variegated definitions of the term “Islam”, and the Sufis might say, “Who are you to tell us what to believe while you’re not plane a Muslim(1)? You don’t plane have the validity and we have our own authority. My religious leaders and my weightier reading of scriptures said that Islam(2) is not Islam at all.” if they’re not trying to defend Islam(1) in unstipulated (that defense moreover often entails why Islam(2) is not the benchmark of Islam(1)). This is what I tried to say in my previous scuttlebutt in wing to gravity feeding as a signal of weakness – the failure to squatter something as it is and the need to coerce it into a straw man to make a specimen – and hopefully this will speak out many Muslim(1)s’ heart. I know that request to validity is wrong, but here I’m not talking well-nigh who’s right or wrong; what I’m talking well-nigh is that someone who has not and is not willing to self-mastery terrorist attacks does not deserve punishments for terrorism. The punishment should suit the particular crime, and plane if the defendant is guilty of other crimes, he should not deserve punishment of a treason that he did not commit. What well-nigh correlation between membership of Islam(1) and say terrorism, ignorance, and etc? Correlation doesn’t midpoint causation, but can Islam(1) be a marker for those nature plane if there’s no causation? But plane if there’s some correlation, a marker that yields 90% false positive is still a terrible marker.Plane40% false positive should be increasingly than unbearable to make a marker bad. For both judicial and medical purposes, we must strive to minimize false positives and true negatives, and when it comes to Islam(2), it doesn’t take much effort to somewhat cut lanugo false positives – simple things like questionnaires should at least help. But we should try not to wrong a single person. If justice is of unconfined value, then we must invest much increasingly on it and shouldn’t use a marker that yields 90% false positive. Health is of unconfined value, and we did and should invest on it. If it’s right to spend millions of dollars on biomedical research in order to modernize medicine, then anthropological research of particular Muslim(1) communities that might be problematic (which I don’t think will forfeit nearly as much as research washed-up to understand cancer or other kinds of worldwide diseases) should be warranted for the sake of justice. But what anthropologists said is that it’s not the wish to spread Islam or restore Caliphate that makes people terrorists, but imperialism, poverty, discrimination, identity crisis, and etc. (see http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/anthropologist-seeks-the-roots-of-terrorism/, http://19.org/blog/terrorism/) If you don’t have the expertise to judge which anthropologist is right, then please stop judging what you can’t judge if you’re rational. A precise understanding of the problem is required surpassing the problem can be solved. 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