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Sam Gerrans andLawmaking19 – 19.org 19.org Faith not supported by reason and empirical vestige is wishful thinking Menu Skip to content Home Books BrainbowTypesettingList Quran: a Reformist Translation NINETEEN: God’s Signature Islamic Theory ofIncubation(Shanavas) Authors Edip Yüksel Abdur Rab Arnold Mol Asghar Ali Engineer Kassim Ahmad Reaz Islam Videos Organization Contact Associates and Affiliates Download 114 Movement Registration Update Info Sam Gerrans andLawmaking19 Posted by admin on 7 February 2017, 6:17 pmLawmaking19 with Sam Gerrans Edip Yüksel 25 January 2017 EDİP: Fantastic presentation.Unconfinedeffort and work. But at the same time: Speculative, arbitrary, inconsistent and complicated. And it is not falsifiable. On the other hand, lawmaking 19 is factual, mathematical, resulting and simple to understand. For instance, the frequency of the letters/numbers K20H5Y10A’70SS90 in the installment 19 is exactly 798, that is 19×42. But, when I have increasingly time, I will study your work increasingly carefully, God willing. I would like to get your book, since I prefer it to the video. Peace SAM GERRANS: Regarding your criticisms: I prefer vestige to invective. On your other points: “[Khalifa believed that] Qur’an in its current written form should be tweaked in unrepealable places in order to come to this conclusion. For example, equal to Rashad Khalifa, the initial Muqatta’at Nun (ن) in Sura 68 should be written as ‘Nun Waw Nun’ (نؤن)” cf. http://www.submission.org/Initial_Noon.html My own note to 74:31 summarises my (albeit simple) understanding of what 19 ways in the Qur’an: “The final word of this clause can be read angels or as angels. If read the first way, the implication is that ‘the companions of the fire’ mentioned here are themselves angels. While this is the popular reading, the Qur’anic vestige is versus it. The expression the companions of the fire occurs a total of 20 times (2:39, 2:81, 2:217, 2:257, 2:275, 3:116, 5:29, 7:36, 7:44, 7:47, 7:50, 10:27, 13:5, 39:8, 40:6, 40:43, 58:17, 59:20, 64:10, 74:31) and in all cases outside of the one under discussion at 74:31 it unquestionably references those who are to suffer in Hell. In the sparsity of explicit, incontrovertible vestige to the contrary, a reasonable man must seem that what is meant in each of the remaining 19 instances is what is meant here also; this simple process of wringer also, incidentally, provides us with a reasonable wordplay to what is referenced by the number 19 here (which itself has served as the impetus for so much generative and speculative output of a mathematical nature whence with Rashad Khalifa) – i.e. all the other cases of ‘the companions of the fire’; thus, the strategic number found at 74:30 merely indicates  the number of the remaining cases of ‘the companions of the fire’ all of which precede this one in the text, and acts as a parity bit by ways of which we receive a proof point supportive of the Qur’an’s requirement to be complete, preserved and in the correct order – something which Rashid Khalifa in part, in effect, was compelled to dispute in order to struggle to wrench the facts to his theories.” Just to be clear: just as I have no interest in Traditionalist Islam, I have plane less interest in spending what time God gives me wrangling with non-Traditionalists over their favourite theories. What is of primary importance in the Qur’an is well-spoken and hands understood (belief in God and the Last Day and the doing of good works; the mechanism of warning the ruling elites as the unchanging practice of God in overturning tyrannies). I superintendency well-nigh these things. The rest of it – to me – is a talking shop. I have looked at that portion of the 19 material I could understand. Some of it stands up. Some of it seems a stretch. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t stupefy my life or supply any of the guidance which the Qur’an claims to represent. But then people are different; and I’m not a mathematician – both of which points I am perfectly well-appointed with. Peace, Sam. EDİP: Excellent observation, brother. We knew this for years. At the same time, you have provided unconfined support for the mathematical miracle of the Quran based on lawmaking 19. Of course, you are not plane enlightened of the fact that you are contradicting your initial statement trying to reduce the importance of 19. TheTragedianof the Quran gives special importance to the number 19 and no sophistry or diversion can imbricate up that fact. Besides the prophetic accent on the number 19 and its functions (increasing the trust of those who trust God and to expose the hypocrites and ingrates); its ubiquitous no-go presence in the structure of chapters, verses, words and reports is proof to the divine assessment: Indeed, it is one of the greatest. In fact, this observation regarding then frequency of the number of “Ashab al-Nar” which is an old discovery, is one of the hundreds of parameters supporting the importance of 19. Interestingly, you are using a single example to reject the importance of similar and plane much impressive examples. It is a major confusion. I will write this in a video God willing. You reminded me my treatise with Abdurrahman Lomax, well-nigh 20 years ago, on the frequency of the word Day (YaWM) in singular form. He was joined by a Jewish skeptic. Both wasted my time for days until it became well-spoken that the frequency of the word DAY (Yawm) with no unfluctuating suffixes was exactly 365. But, I was thankful in the end. Lomax, while trying to refute the fact, inadvertently discovered flipside fact, which he did not overly realize until I reminded him. The total frequency of all forms of the word “YWM” as undisputed by Lomax, is 475, that is, 19×25. God unchangingly exposes those who rejects the truth (47:29).  Fer the unshortened treatise and its summary visit 19.org and read the vendible titled 365 Days. 10:39-40 Indeed, they have rejected this without studying and examining it, and surpassing understanding it. Thus did those surpassing them disbelieve. Therefore, note the consequences for the transgressors. 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